Baptiste napisał(a):Moim zdaniem to błędne założenie. Inteligencja często nie ma związku z tym co utrudnia złapanie, tzn. siłą, wytrzymałością fizyczną. Przy takim postawieniu sprawy Hawking wyszedłby na troglodytę.
Owszem, w pojedynczych wypadkach te czynniki mogą nie mieć znaczenie i dzięki przewadze liczebnej np., nawet Einsteina możnaby zagonić do koziego rogu. Rzecz w tym, że na skalę masową, zwyczajny rozkład prawdopodobieństwa wymaga by w jakieś części przypadków możliwe było uniknięcie schwytania lub ucieczka dzięki właśnie wysokiej inteligencji.
Poza tym masz błędnie wyobrażenia o handlu niewolnikami. Pochodzili oni nie tylko z "łapanek" (prowadzonych zresztą rękami czarnych), ale także jako naturalny element afrykańskiej struktury społecznej i byli przedmiotem handlu jeszcze przed przybyciem Europejczyków na Czarny Ląd. Kilka cytatów z wiki:
wikipedia napisał(a):The Atlantic slave traders, ordered by trade volume, were: the Portuguese, the British, the French, the Spanish, the Dutch, and the Americans. They had established outposts on the African coast where they purchased slaves from local African tribal leaders.
Slavery in historical Africa was practiced in many different forms and some of these do not clearly fit the definitions of slavery elsewhere in the world. Debt slavery, enslavement of war captives, military slavery, and criminal slavery were all practiced in various parts of Africa.
The increase of demand for slaves due to the expansion of European colonial powers to the New World made the slave trade much more lucrative to the West African powers, leading to the establishment of a number of actual West African empires thriving on slave trade. These included Oyo empire (Yoruba), Kong Empire, Kingdom of Benin, Imamate of Futa Jallon, Imamate of Futa Toro, Kingdom of Koya, Kingdom of Khasso, Kingdom of Kaabu, Fante Confederacy, Ashanti Confederacy, and the kingdom of Dahomey.
According to John K. Thornton, Europeans usually bought enslaved people who were captured in endemic warfare between African states.[22] There were also Africans who had made a business out of capturing Africans from neighboring ethnic groups or war captives and selling them.[23] People living around the Niger River were transported from these markets to the coast and sold at European trading ports in exchange for muskets (matchlock between 1540–1606 but flintlock from then on) and manufactured goods such as cloth or alcohol.
Many slave relationships in Africa revolved around domestic slavery, where slaves would work primarily in the house of the master but retain some freedoms. Domestic slaves could be considered part of the master's household and would not be sold to others without extreme cause. The slaves could own the profits from their labor (whether in land or in products) and could marry and pass the land on to their children in many cases.
Pawnship, or debt bondage slavery, involves the use of people as collateral to secure the repayment of debt. Slave labor is performed by the debtor, or a relative of the debtor (usually a child). Pawnship was a common form of collateral in West Africa. It involved the pledge of a person, or a member of that person's family, to service another person providing credit.
Historians John Thornton and Linda Heywood of Boston University estimate that 90 percent of those shipped to the New World were enslaved by Africans and then sold to European traders. Henry Louis Gates, the Harvard Chair of African and African American Studies, has stated that "without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible, at least on the scale it occurred.
Sofeicz napisał(a):Teza Arymana miałaby podstawy, gdyby występowała negatywna korelacja pomiędzy tymi złapanymi a współczesnymi "macierzystymi' populacjami afrykańskimi.
A tu jest akurat odwrotnie - afroamerykanie są lepsi niż rdzenni Afrykanie (ich IQ historycznie rosło).
Jak mają nie być lepsi zważywszy na różnice w poziomie życia, dostępie do edukacji i kultury, lepszą dietę, łagodniejszy klimat itd.?
Laws are formed by the arrogant and presumptuous, and our work here is a message to them that such arrogance will always be questioned by those with minds and wills of their own. Nefris of Thay

